Spotlight: An Interview with co-writer T. Mychael Rambo and co-director Austene Van
Where Are We Going, Where Have We Come From
By May Mahala, August Wilson Dramaturgical Fellow
Mahala: As the co-writer and co-director
of this production, could each of you talk
about this year’s production concept for
Black Nativity A Homecoming?
Rambo: I can speak to what led up to
this year’s remount and re-conception
because where we are at this year comes
from a process of maturation. In terms of
the writing, we wanted to make sure that
we have a storyline that gives even greater
consideration to the function of Black
Nativity in this community. When Lou
Bellamy and I sat down to talk about the
writing several years ago, we wanted to
insure that the story gave the audience a
chance to understand how valuable Black
Nativity has become over the years and
how it has become such a part of people’s
holiday celebrations. We had taken a
hiatus for a year and we really wanted to
give some recognition to the previous
incarnation of Black Nativity and celebrate
what the story meant and where it had
come from. From that, we created our
Reflections of Black Nativity, and we received
a great response to that. So we asked
ourselves what we could do to make this an
ongoing story. We decided to bring this
story into the context of a house, into the
context of a family, into the context of a
community, a community very similar to
the community that has sustained
Penumbra Theatre. We created the
character of the grandmother, who is the
matriarch of her family. We know that
women have sustained
our communities in so
many ways and have held
together the holidays through the
traditions of cooking and of storytelling
and of quilting so the idea for the storyline
was to bring all of that together. Now we
are looking at ways we can continue to
enhance the story and to keep it compelling.
Van: I believe the story is about a family
that comes together stands firm on a solid
foundation. I believe this is a family that
testifies through storytelling, through
song, through music and in so doing they
pass the legacy of love.
Mahala: You have both been involved in
Black Nativity for a number of years.
Because this year is the theatre’s 30th
anniversary, I think it is important to look
back at Penumbra’s history. Could each of
you speak to the history of Black Nativity
and its function within this theatre?
Van: Penumbra and Black Nativity have
created an expansive feeling within the
community and when we did take that
breath, that year where we didn’t do the
production, it was a little dispiriting. I felt
a little dispirited after having been part of
the fabric of the family that created this
theatre’s unique vision of Black Nativity.
Rambo: We resumed
Black Nativity in 2004,
which was the year that
Kathryn Gagnon passed. During the 2004
production we acknowledged Kathy’s
connection to Black Nativity and brought
many of the past cast members into the
house and acknowledged them.
Van: I’ve always felt like it has been an
honor to be one of the storytellers that
brought Black Nativity to life. So having it
re-mounted is like a gathering up again, a
knitting together of the family. I think it’s
important especially in terms of what’s
going on today, in current events and
locally with the gradual deterioration of
our families. It’s like a small stand that
we’re taking. We’re standing on the hope
that we are able to bring this family home,
that we can bring this community together,
that we can bring this world together.
That’s what this production means to me.
Rambo: As a story Black Nativity speaks
to the Christ story, it is about faith,
about a power greater than oneself, about
fearlessness, and about standing on rock.
There’s a song “Jesus is a Rock,” about
standing on that solid bedrock of faith and
I think that for many a season this
production has been the bedrock that has
sustained this company. Over 30 years,
Black Nativity has been the cornerstone
of this theatre in its 20 or so years of
production. This production has brought
so much light, and offered itself as a safe
space and as a haven and has allowed
young people, who might not have been
able to connect with the story initially, to
come to full adulthood over the years
connecting with this story and finding a
way to bring that faith and that belief to
this community in St. Paul and now to
their own children. To see that happen
over the years and to notice the generational
connection has been a blessing.
Van: I think that what makes families stay
together is their faith, whatever faith that
is. The family in this production’s faith
happens to be Christianity, that’s why they
stay together and they celebrate that and
they pass it on and keep it alive. And just
like the family in Black Nativity, we are
now able to pass on this tradition and this
story to others.
Mahala: Thank you for sharing your
experiences and your insights. I think the
production history of Black Nativity is kept
primarily in the bodies and memories of
those that have created it over these many
years. Thank you for sharing some of that
history with the public.